Cobalt LNF Turbo Upgrade Update – July 20th
Written by Corey Mullane Monday, 20 July 2009
The voice of the Cobalt community is being heard inside GM! The team in charge of the Cobalt LNF Turbo Upgrade has seen the comments left on the Petition post and have been working tirelessly to deliver a kit that will meet all the demands and expectations left by all of the owners there. We’ve been doing our fair share of hootin’ and hollerin’ over here saying that this kit will let you dominate the streets, make mince meat out of your competition, etc and we’re just glad that the folks at GM aren’t going to make us eat our words.
So without further ado, we have received the first official dyno numbers and we thought you guys would love to have this update. The official numbers for the Cobalt SS LNF Turbo upgrade Stage 1 kit will stand at 280hp and 320lb.-ft of torque. That’s right, this ain’t no weaksauce kit. That’s an increase of over 60lb.-ft of torque! For you math geeks, that equals out to a 23% increase in torque. A quick search of the interwebs was conducted upon receiving these numbers and we couldn’t find one factory or aftermarket company that can deliver those kinds of numbers with JUST a tune. Add to that the full factory backing from GM and if this isn’t a no brainer modification then cover me in honey and send me off to the farm.After we stopped dancing upon seeing the graph for the first time, we took a more analytical approach to reading it and found out there were some added benefits in this kit as well. Peak power comes earlier, at 4700rpm instead of 5300 and the torque band stays fat almost throughout the entire powerband. This means less turbo-lag and more getting down to business. You wanted more power, well it’s obvious here you are going to have your full share of it – and this is only Stage 1. The factory learn-down is also removed with this kit so everyone with exhaust, etc will be seeing some added gains. We compared this upgrade to the LSJ kit and there seems to be some major advantages already with this upgrade over the LSJ kit.
As you can probably see, we’re as giddy as bunch of school girls right now and we can’t wait to see what the Stage 2 graph will look like with the added intake. As of right now we’re still out on release date and pricing info but once we can lock that down, it will be promptly posted. Enjoy the dyno chart!
UPDATE: The LNF kit and all GM horsepower ratings are crank horsepower.
UPDATE 7/22: New chart is posted with the correct RPM values.
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So i'm assuming this the crank HP or am I wrong?
Look good though. Area under the curve is great.
Look good though. Area under the curve is great.
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July 20, 2009
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Sweet. Thanks for writing. To get a tune up to 320 lb-ft and still have my warranty intact is totally awesome. You guys rock!
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July 20, 2009
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WOOT!!!!! Thank you GMTunerSource and everyone for the time taken for this!! "Speechless" This is above expectations.. and Honestly a HUGE weight lifted. I think its awsome that you have matched and exceeded what others are getting threw an aftermarket tune. WOW! Honestly, full factory warrenty and so much potential. Thank you for being so giving with this. What a wonderful gift. "Passes excitement around the room" 
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July 20, 2009
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already posted this up on CSS.net but is the stage 1 gonna be released before stage 2? And either way this is friggin AWESOME news!!!
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July 20, 2009
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I am sitting back with huge smile on my face. This is incredible news. It shows a lot in fact. I love the fact we are seeing true numbers here and BIG ones at that! Can you believe how much this is going to open things up for us? I mean think about the possibilities now that this opens for power adders etc. Once again - great work to you guys at GMTunerSource.com. This site seems to be getting better and better. Thank you GM!
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July 20, 2009
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Guy's we are excited to be able to bring you this update. GM is energized and working hard on it. The more info we get - you can bet you will be the first to know.
One thing to add here, we just heard from them and the numbers you are seeing on this sheet are said to be Wheel HP numbers - EVEN BETTER HUH?
Enjoy - and please continue to leave feedback here - it is making a difference!
One thing to add here, we just heard from them and the numbers you are seeing on this sheet are said to be Wheel HP numbers - EVEN BETTER HUH?
Enjoy - and please continue to leave feedback here - it is making a difference!
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July 20, 2009
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If those numbers turn out to be at the wheels then GM will get my money for sure. I was debated trifecta because they have more HP potential than this, but this looks amazing on paper.
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July 20, 2009
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That's great guys, I'm so impressed with GM right now. It's a bit sad that we had to get everyone on here to voice up, But regardless.
Go GM!!!!
Moves like this is how you build a customer base. Please Remember That.
For now i have a cobalt, but you never know what's next.
Go GM!!!!
Moves like this is how you build a customer base. Please Remember That.
For now i have a cobalt, but you never know what's next.
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July 20, 2009
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This is amazing news,I'm so relieved about this now and have something to look foward to.I will still be waiting for the stage 2 kit to be released before I do anything.
THANKS GM
THANKS GM
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July 20, 2009
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Im psyched! If these numbers really are WHP and WTQ like stated, that is amazing! I will definitely be getting this kit, I just hope it comes out soon....my car is up to 12,000 miles and 1 yr old....I want to tune now haha. I just hope its a good price. Thanks GM, this just reassures my life long love of GM. Cant wait to Stage 1 my SS/TC!
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July 20, 2009
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This is.... AWESOME!!! Anyway... if we could get a little more info on whether or not the Stage 1 flash is the same as the Stage 2 flash with just the addition of the intake?
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July 20, 2009
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this is awesome cant wait for it to get released. this info makes it a little easier to wait for the kit. i just hope the numbers are true. after looking at the chart it looks a little questionable as to whether the number are at the wheels or crank. lets hope for the best.
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July 20, 2009
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Thanks for watching my back after all the flack I've been taking pumping this thing up to the nay sayers. That IS some good numbers. You say this is "Stage 1", so I guess we can assume (I know, I know) a "Stage 2" is somewhere in the wings waiting for whatever it is you wait for? I'm gonna GUESS that WITH a "Stage 2" 300HP is in the ballpark, with torque in the neighborhood of 350? What the Hell. We can all DREAM can't we? Sometimes dreams DO come true. THANK YOU GMPP!! Well done.
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July 20, 2009
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Heck yes they do! Hehe.. It is very possible. I know that were are getting a new intake. CIA would be cool, but i'm guessing that short ram is what it is. Sure is a nice dream. I'm still just overjoyed with the numbers we are getting on the stage 1 kit. I'm wondering what GM is thinking right now. Oh my gosh.. what have we done. Did we actually just beaf up this 2.0 T/C?? Giving proven gas milage that most dream of and performance that is unquestionably a gift. HaHa.. so much potential with these LNF cars. DI is the way to go. We are just the first chop off the iceburge. I think we will be swarming in ecotech lnf cars for many more years. WTG GM!!
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July 21, 2009
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To the crew here at GMTS... The graph you show is for crank hp not wheel... come on, you guys can't tell by looking at the graph that it's crank??? the car is stock at 260260.. the graph shows that... a typical stock SSTC makes 240 whp not 260 and the stock wtq is around 258 lbs t ... This is misleading the community when you say these are whp numbers!!! very bad practice in my opinion..... Get it right guys........This is weak....
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July 21, 2009
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EVERONE!!!! THE CREW HERE OBVOUSLY DOES NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT CARS... AS I STATED, THIS IS A GRAPH OF CRANKBRAKE HP WHICH IS 12% LESS THEN WHP... OBSERVE STOCK HP AND TQ NUMBERS OF 260 AND 260...GMTS NEEDS TO STOP TEASING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS STG KIT WITH FALSE INFORMATION..... GMTS >>>>> PLEASE CORRECT YOURSELVES. ... THX.
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July 21, 2009
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They are showing factory crank HP and TQ numbers against Stage 1 wheel HP and TQ. It would be confusing to list stock HP and TQ anywhere below 260 because everyone knows the TC to be rated at 260/260. If they showed stock numbers at the wheels it would make the car look weak. Or they made a mistake and the internet guru could not understand the engineer.
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July 21, 2009
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Beasty, perhaps you can leave out the editorial? you are right there is a descrepency in the chart, you pointed it out, thank you. Andy/Corey is it possible to get this cleared up?
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July 21, 2009
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Beastybalt, perhaps you can leave out the editorial? you are correct there seems to be a descrepency in the chart, thanks for bringing it to our attention. Corey or Andy is it possible to get this cleared up?
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July 21, 2009
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Good morning guys. I wanted to jump in here for a sec. More than likely someone misspoke internally thinking this was WHP instead of crank. So lets just look at this as crank HP until further notice. We feel that this is more than likely crank HP as well. It still does not take away this "A quick search of the interwebs was conducted upon receiving these numbers and we couldn’t find one factory or aftermarket company that can deliver those kinds of numbers with JUST a tune. Add to that the full factory backing from GM"
I would say that GMPP has not only done a great job here, but they have done a GREAT job! We are as excited as you are for what we are seeing here. Glad to see many of you are extremely happy as you should be.
Beastybalt - does this help now? Hope it gives you all the warm and fuzzies again.
We are continuing to search for more info and as we get it - you will be the first to know.
I would say that GMPP has not only done a great job here, but they have done a GREAT job! We are as excited as you are for what we are seeing here. Glad to see many of you are extremely happy as you should be.
Beastybalt - does this help now? Hope it gives you all the warm and fuzzies again.
We are continuing to search for more info and as we get it - you will be the first to know.
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July 21, 2009
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My main concern is that the pigtails have to be spliced into the factory wiring harness. This is somewhat to be desired since the splice is only as good as the individual/technician performing the task. Since we have waited this long, why not implement a plug and play pigtail that will make for a less tacky thrown together look. Lets take that extra step and make the kit look like it came from the factory and not like the beginner weekend warrior wire-nutted the splices and covered it with a snippet of duct tape!
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July 21, 2009
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AndyWilliamson.. You said that you and the team at GMTuners are having meetings on a regular basis? If so.. What kind of time line can we expext to check back on the site for further updates and very much appreciated information about the Stage 1 kit for the Cobalt SS T/C? Its like Christmas everyday seeing what I got.. hehe..
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July 22, 2009
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Kildore, yes we have meetings all the time - and they cover lots of different topics and things from Marketing to Public Relations to car launches and parts etc. When we do have meetings about the Cobalt and this kit - we immediately get clearance to allow us to post about it. We have a meeting today, but not on this subject, but will bring it up nonetheless and see what else we can get out of it.
We will let you guys know what we learn - as soon as we learn it.
We will let you guys know what we learn - as soon as we learn it.
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July 22, 2009
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Now if you guys can keep the price under $500 Ill be the first guy in line. HURRY!!!
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July 22, 2009
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QUESTION: why does the graph say the max hp is at 5100 when the tick mark on the graph is obviously before 5k rpm? anyone else notice that?
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July 22, 2009
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"A quick search of the interwebs was conducted upon receiving these numbers and we couldn’t find one factory or aftermarket company that can deliver those kinds of numbers with JUST a tune. Add to that the full factory backing from GM"
Uh...I'm pretty sure Trifecta is making more power than that with just a tune. Warranty is another issue however.
Uh...I'm pretty sure Trifecta is making more power than that with just a tune. Warranty is another issue however.
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July 22, 2009
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Thank you Andy. Much appreciated!!
IMO, the aftermarket tunes are able to give you more horsepower, but with no warrenty?? If you have the money cool.. and awsome for you, but others have to work hard for their $$$ and have families. This is a VERY awsome thing. This much HP/TQ with a full warrenty. Also, more talk of later upgrades?? Seriously.. just give it some time, and we will be up with the other aftermarket tuners.
Aftermarket parts followed up with a tune is another story.
IMO, the aftermarket tunes are able to give you more horsepower, but with no warrenty?? If you have the money cool.. and awsome for you, but others have to work hard for their $$$ and have families. This is a VERY awsome thing. This much HP/TQ with a full warrenty. Also, more talk of later upgrades?? Seriously.. just give it some time, and we will be up with the other aftermarket tuners.
Aftermarket parts followed up with a tune is another story.
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July 22, 2009
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No problem. We will continue to update you all. We have some other updates we are doing today - smaller but good technical info to share. Will have this up soon.
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July 22, 2009
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thanks AW I'm proud too said I own a cobalt ss/tc with gmpd that's got my back with more hp/tq. Thanks for keeping us updated on the stages.I'm ready too buy as soon as they come out.
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July 22, 2009
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Just a thought here.. If peek torque is moved 2300rpm later ie.4300rpm how will this affect the car when its in cruise going up a hill in 5th? will it bog the engine down? or will I get the same effect like my diesel more power more torque more speed and the most important part "from the wifes point of view" better fuel economy?
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July 22, 2009
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Gm finally make a car that can stick with the AWD EVO's and STI's. It sucks they dropped the SS division. Up to this point this is the best car I've own. I just hope they plan on making more then 2 stage kit's. Maybe a more agressive Suspension upgrade and clutch, or even a turbo or other performance parts(Charge Pipes, Big Intercooler, sprayer). But i know you can't ask for everything. I still can't get over the MPG i get with the power this car delivers. It's just disappointing that there not going to be a replacement anytime soon for the cobalt SS when the production is done. Please don't make me buy a foreign sport car in the future. 
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July 23, 2009
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09lnfblk, the graph shows that you will even have a little more than the rated 260 tq at 2000, which is the max now. so there will not be a point where the pre-tune car will feel like it has more power than the post-tune car.
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July 23, 2009
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09lnfblk, the graph shows that you will even have a little more than the rated 260 tq at 2000, which is the max now. so there will not be a point where the pre-tune car will feel like it has more power than the post-tune car.Thats what I was hoping I keep looking at the torgue curve
I just hope the car keeps its drivablity. smooth no agressive spikes in power or dead spots.
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July 24, 2009
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